Priority:	Normal
Topic:	Re: ideas
Sent:	9/26/01
From:	Ottinger, Ron
To:	Braun, Sue
CC:	Cox Lopez, Ed,; Flanagan, Kerry; Gomez, Deberie; Sawyerknoll, Joanne; Smith., Lou
Re: ideas Sue, I am sorry. I reached the boiling point. Subject to Joarne S saying that it is legal, I think we should change the by-laws requiring a vote to remove items from the consent calendar and reducing public comment minutes to 3 as per all other entities. I have no problem taking separate votes on consent items they want to vote no on, but I am not willing to sit there and listen to them pontif icate, especially when they have not done their homework up front. Becky has a role to play in all of this since she does have some kind of relationship with John and Fran. I believe we would have been on solid legal ground last night in moving the remainder of the consent calendar last night and voting on them all in one motion--we do that for the entire consent calendar anyway. Perhaps Cheryl Ward can also work with Terry and Becky on a solution. I agree that we should not get into it, however, when they have an audience we know what happens. Good idea to put heads together. This mess has to stop. George Stevens is absolutely correct--it's an embarrassment. Ron Sue Braun wrote: > I feel that tonight's board meeting was totally out of control during the last part. What seems to happen is that John and Frances get so outragous that they get the rest of the board members, including me, crazy. Partly it is the longwinded going on and on and on > > Does anyone have any ideas re: how I can keep more control of the meetings? Should we, the other 3 of us, let them say whatever they want and make no response at all ever, just move to the next item? I can also table all pulled consent agenda items that have not been discussed with staff, as we did tonight, when there are no consequences for a delay, according to staff. We can expect that John will continue to use board meetings to conduct his election campaign. Do we let it happen with no response or comment? > > The only other idea I have is to shoot the both of them. I was thinking of a way to get them both with one bullet, but now think they are each too heavy for that to work. > > I will seriously listen to any ideas. Sue RFC822 header ----------------------------------- Return-Path: <rottiniger@avidcenter.org> Received: from riptide.sandi.net (riptide. sandi net [165.24.1.35]) by doIphin.sandi.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8QGHiblO289; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jackson.redwire.net (209-246-228- 019.sdcalcolol. redwired. net [209.246.228.19]) by riptide.sandi.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28895; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avidcenter.org (avid-gw.redwired.net [64.154.91.230]) by jackson.redwire.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29626; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:09:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3BB1FF8O.4F5C6A3D@avidcenter.org> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:17:04 -0700 Prom: Ron Ottinger <rottinger@&vidcenter.org> Reply-To: rottinger@avidcenter.org